I have seen several reports indicating that Rep. [fill in the blank] is/is not going to support passage of health care reform over the past several days, but I haven’t seen anyone actually aggregate them all in one place. I tried to do just that.

Results below (all are Democrats unless otherwise indicated; click on the “XX” in the vote column for the hyperlink to the story describing the Representative’s vote):

Representative Name Original Vote Now Leaning Yes Now Leaning No Now Undecided Now Definitely Yes Now Definitely No
John Adler (NJ) No XX
Jason Altmire (PA) No XX
Brian Baird (WA) No XX
John Boccieri (OH) XX
Rick Boucher (VA) No XX
Bart Gordon (TN) No XX
Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin (SD) No XX
Larry Kissell (NC) No XX
Suzanne Kosmas (FL) No XX
Frank Kratovil (MD) No XX
Dennis Kusinich (OH) No XX
Michael McMahon (NY) No XX
Walt Minnick (ID) No XX
Scott Murphy (NY) No XX
Glenn Nye (VA) No XX
John Tanner (TN) No XX
Michael Arcuri (NY) Yes XX
Dan Maffei (NY) Yes XX
Bill Owens (NY) Yes XX
Dan Lipinski (IL) Yes XX
Kurt Schraeder (OR) Yes XX
Shelley Berkley (NV) Yes XX
Bart Stupak (MI) Yes XX
Jerry Costello (IL) Yes XX
Kathy Dahlkemper (PA) Yes XX
Joe Donnelly (IN) Yes XX
Steve Driehaus (OH) Yes XX
Brad Ellsworth (IN) Yes XX
Marcy Kaptur (OH) Yes XX
Paul Kanjorski (PA) Yes XX
Dale Kildee (MI) Yes XX
Jim Oberstar (MN) Yes XX
Charlie Wilson (OH) Yes XX
Solomon Ortiz (TX) Yes XX
Raul Grijalva (AZ) Yes XX
Joseph Cao (R-LA) Yes XX
Steve Kagan (WI) Yes XX
John Spratt (SC) Yes XX
Dan Boren (OK) No XX
Bobby Bright (AL) No XX
Arthur Davis (AL) No XX
Collin Peterson (MN) No XX
Mike Ross (AR) No XX
Ike Skelton (MO) No XX
Gene Taylor (MS) No XX
Jerry McNerney (CA) Yes XX
Mike McIntyre (NC) No XX
Chet Edwards (TX) No XX

The vote count is obviously very fluid, and some of the individuals listed above have sent mixed signals on their possible vote. Where more than one position has been indicated, I have taken the most recent public position for inclusion in the table above.

Some of the votes above are also speculative. The identity of the “Stupak 12,” for example, has not been officially confirmed, but it is believed to include the individuals listed in the table in bold font (there are actually 14 names for the Stupak 12 listed, due to conflicting reports on the identity of the 12).

In summary, we have the following:

Former “No” Votes Now Voting:

Leaning Yes: 6

Leaning No: 1

Undecided: 4

Definitely Yes: 0

Definitely No: 14

Former “Yes” Votes Now Voting:

Leaning Yes: 0

Leaning No: 9

Undecided: 13

Definitely Yes: 1

Definitely No: 0

216 votes are now required to pass health care reform (Rep. Abercrombie, Rep. Wexler, and Rep. Murtha are not in the House anymore and were all former “yes” votes; Rep. Massa was a former “no” vote who is no longer in the House).

If the vote were held today, based on the table above, the vote would be (assuming all leaning votes are cast in the direction in which they are leaning and all others vote as they voted for the original House bill):

Yes: 201

No: 215

Undecided: 15

Counting all those who are “leaning yes” or “leaning no” as “undecided,” the tally as of now is as follows:

Yes: 196

No: 205

Undecided: 30

Speaker Pelosi has her work cut out for her.  Assuming all “leaning” votes are cast in the direction they are leaning, she will need to find 14 more votes to swing this in her favor (if leaning are counted as “undecided,” she will need to find 20 more votes). That said, this is certainly doable. She has 15 “undecided” votes to work with (or 30, depending on how you count it), plus 13 who have not expressed an opinion who previously voted “no” (see note below for the full list). Furthermore, any compromise on abortion could sway several of the “Stupak 12,” and it is even possible they may become convinced the current abortion language is sufficiently strong (see here for a good summary of why). Of the “Stupak 12,” the only Representatives thus far to have stated they will not vote for the bill without an abortion “fix” are Berry, Driehaus, Lipinski and Stupak.

This fight is far from over. Please call your representative today and push them to vote “yes” for health care reform.

NOTE: Several original “no” votes have not expressed an indication on how they will vote this time.  Those Representatives are: Barrow (GA), Boyd (FL), Chandler (KY), Childers (MS), Davis (TN), Griffith (AL), Holden (PA), Marshall (GA), Markley (CO), Matheson (UT), Melancon (LA), Shuler (NC), and Teague (NM) (13 total).

UPDATE: Dennis Kusinich added to the “no” column., Spratt added to the “undecided” column, and Kagan added to the “leaning no” column.

UPDATE II: Due to a helpful update on www.thehill.com, we have significantly updated the table from the earlier version. Earlier, I had placed all suspected members of the “Stupak 12″ into the “leaning no” category. The Hill has clarified that many of them should instead be listed as “undecided” instead, other than the four listed above who will not support the bill without changes to abortion language.

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The Education of …

Mr. Coates, one of the best writers you aren’t currently reading, describes here some of the challenges he’s facing in deciding how best to educate his young son in Harlem.  In brief, Mr. Coates finds that many, if not most, of the public schools near his home are more accurately described as test-prep schools designed to prepare students to achieve on the standardized tests that higher education uses as a proxy for determining likelihood of success in college.  The post touches on a couple different subjects, but there are two I’d like to explore more fully.

1)  The strong impression the reader gets is that public schools in poorer, urban areas serve a different purpose than the education provided by private schools or suburban public schools, namely to increase the prospects of college attendence.  This stands in contrast to what I’d view as the historical model of public education serving the same general purpose for all students in the country – to provide a baseline set of facts that society views as necessary to function and the tools to learn new facts and identify the relative merits of new theories.

Presumably most of the students in Mr. Coates area are coming from families in which they would be the first to attend college.  If you believe that college attendence is a positive, as I do, and view the correlation between college attendence and income levels as legitimate, this model offers some value.  And I’m completely sympathetic to the position that giving a kid that opportunity may outweigh any greater societal costs.  And, theoretically, a college education can fill any gap in more traditional learning that is sacrificed.  My fear is that given this country’s distaste for education in general and life-long learning in particular, every opportunity we have for sparking a flame for learning and thinking is a precious moment.  How many success stories do you hear today that sing the praises of a particular high school or middle school teacher that set a student’s feet on the path that led to their acheivement?  Can we sacrifice even one opportunity?

2)  At the same time, I worry about the dissolution of the education structure into multiple levels of service.  One of the strengths of the universal system serving everyone more or less in the same manner is that society has buy-in.  If you didn’t attend public school, chances are fairly good that you know someone who did.  Having a relationship with the public schooling system helps all of us want to see it succeed.  Alternatively, if urban public schools are the product sold to the poor as a tool to get the next generation into college, suburban schools the product for the middle-class to provide an avenue to (most likely) one of the nearby state universities, and the rich retreat to private schooling, all I see is increased societal stratification.  (I understand these are gross oversimplifications and hope you can get beyond them to understand the point).  Conservatives seem to believe that the public education model is a flawed, or worse failed, experiment.   How much easier will it be to chip away further at the institution, at one or multiple levels, if it is a product only used by a group to which the majority of the country doesn’t belong?

This isn’t a subject I have much in the way of answers.  Unusual, I know.  That said, for all of the platitudes that every leader in our society lays at the feet of education, I’m increasingly uncomfortable about its future prospects.

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Mitt Romney had this to say about health care reform:

Well, actually, one of the things I learned when I was governor is that we have universal health care in America already. Everybody in this country, if they become ill, goes to the emergency room, even without insurance, and is able to receive, under the law, free care.

What we decided was it was a better idea to help people get insurance than just to hand out free care at hospitals, which was very expensive and oftentimes came after somebody was already quite ill. So we found a way, we think pretty good way, to get all of our citizens insured. We think it’s going to improve their health care. Not a perfect plan, but we believe a lot better than what we had in the past.

And unlike the president’s plan, ours was a state program, not a federal program, so each state could create their own ideas. We did not have to raise taxes, and we did not cut Medicare.

“Under the law,” we all have a right to “free care” in an emergency room? GREAT! I definitely shouldn’t be paying for health insurance, then.

This isn’t the only time he has said health care is free, either.

Here he was on Morning Joe, claiming emergency room care is “entirely free care for which [people] have no responsibility”:

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Republicans haven’t said “yes” to much of anything since President Obama took office. They have filibustered virtually everything (even things they appear to like), they have proposed virtually nothing (other than vague platitudes), and when Democrats give them what they demand, they often then criticize the Democrats for having complied.

Some of those charges aren’t all that peculiar to this minority party. Under some unwritten political law, minority parties almost never offer solutions- the theory being that voters are quicker turned against something than they are persuaded to be for something. Democrats in 2006, for example, had astonishingly little to contribute to any policy discussions. It seems, though, that for some Republicans, pure obstructionism and saying “no,” even at a record-breaking pace, isn’t enough. Some want something more: fear. Continue Reading…

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As it becomes increasingly more apparent that Democrats are going to attempt to amend the already-passed Senate bill through a process known as reconciliation, Republicans are suddenly deciding they don’t like reconciliation. Senator Lamar Alexander (R-TN), for example, recently claimed that if Democrats use reconciliation, it will “end the Senate as a protector of minority rights.” As the chart below shows, Senator Alexander (and many other current Republican Senators) haven’t seemed bothered by reconciliation in the past (data below thanks in large part to Greg Sargent).

Senator Name Percent of Senator’s Votes Cast FOR Reconciliation Measures
Alexander 100.0
Barrasso 100.0
Bennett 91.7
Bond 78.6
Brownback 100.0
Bunning 85.7
Burr 66.7
Chambliss 100.0
Coburn 66.7
Cochran 66.7
Collins 88.9
Corker 100.0
Cornyn 100.0
Crapo 100.0
DeMint 66.7
Ensign 100.0
Enzi 88.9
Graham 75.0
Grassley 85.7
Gregg 83.3
Hatch 85.7
Hutchinson 78.6
Inhofe 81.8
Isakson 100.0
Kyl 100.0
Lugar 92.9
McCain 64.3
McConnell 71.4
Murkowski 100.0
Roberts 88.9
Sessions 88.9
Shelby 78.6
Snowe 72.7
Thune 66.7
Vitter 66.7
Voinovich 71.4
TOTAL AVERAGE 84.6


NOTE: Senators Brown, Johanns, Risch, LeMieux and Wicker have not had the opportunity to vote on a reconciliation bill and, thus, are not included in the table above.

For all reconciliation votes on which current GOP Senators have voted, Republicans have supported reconciliation 84.6% of the time. Senator Alexander, who fears minority protection in the Senate will end if reconciliation is used, has voted FOR reconciliation bills 100% of the time (4 opportunities to vote on reconciliation bills, 4 votes cast for reconciliation). Senator McCain has supported reconciliation bills less frequently than any other current GOP Senator, but even he has voted FOR reconciliation bills 64.3% of the time (9 of the 14 times he has been presented with a reconciliation bill).

There is absolutely nothing new about using reconciliation in the Senate. More to the point, there is absolutely nothing inappropriate about using reconciliation for this specific bill. Republicans know all of this, obviously, but they also know what Senator Conrad is learning: reconciliation isn’t particularly easy to explain in a 15-second sound bite on the Sunday news shows. They are attempting to derail democratic (small “d” on purpose) attempts to pass health insurance reform through obfuscation and obstinacy. It’s high time they were called on it.

For those interested, the table below shows all current GOP Senator votes on reconciliation bills since they came into office. I am not an expert with Google docs, so hopefully it is a workable format.

Legend:

Black cells: votes preceding the Senator’s election to office
Green cells: votes cast for reconciliation
Red cells: either a vote cast against reconciliation or no vote cast at all

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Link Drop…

1. Ron Paul, the arguable founder of the Tea Party movement, now finds himself as a Tea Party target.

2. Frank Rich notes the dangers of extremist elements within the Tea Party movement.

3. Ongoing revelations on Catholic priest sexual abuse are causing many Irish to walk away from their traditional faith.

4. In a continent often low on hope and high on conflict, the Democratic Republic of Congo offers quite a bit of the former and much less of the latter. Standing in the way of progress is… perhaps you.

5. A 14-year-old Malawi boy named William Kamkwamba saw a windmill and thought it would be of enormous benefit to his village. So he built one from spare parts and scrap with no training or experience. His story is here:

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Raven wrote a excellent comment to an earlier post of mine that deserves a bit more attention than comment status affords it. So I am putting it here. Enjoy.

Mr. Stack’s case brings front and center what is the central delimma of the conservative position. The use of torture presents two central questions – the moral and the practical. The evidence I have seen makes me question the practical use of torture as a means of securing actionable intelligence, but I freely admit that this evidence is based on second-hand accounts and the testimony of experts who’s views I trust. As an aside, every expert purporting to speak upon the efficacy of torture should be required to first claim (a)he/she personally took part in or personally supervised the acts of torture, and (b) cross-checked the information gained as a part of those efforts and found it to provide useful information. The third step is to verify that the information gained could not be gained in any less abhorent ways. Though I do suppose that a person like Mr. Mark Thiessen would dispute that last step. To him it appears torture is simply another tool in the arsenal, no more troubling or comforting than the next.

The problem is, once you’ve rung that bell it can’t be un-rung. No one can go back and say but for the torture we wouldn’t have gotten this information. So analysts can stand in front of a camera, a crowd or a jury and claim without much contest that torture was the only way to obtain the information. Perhaps there is some way to quantify the value of information obtained prior to torture and weigh it against the value of information obtained following torture, but I suspect such an analysis would be open to challenge by either side and, let’s be honest, the American public simply doesn’t have the patience to spend time and try to understand all of the dimensions of the problem.

All of that said, we’ve left aside the more important element, namely the morality of the use of such acts. There is a powerful argument, admitted to by the Right, that even if torture produces results its use is anathema to our society. My question would be how do what-passes-for-conservatives today distinguish in the relative distastefulness of torture? I assume they wouldn’t view the use of water-boarding as acceptable against an American citizen involved in a kidnapping conspiracy (a scenario far more likely than the oft-invoked ticking time bomb), but perhaps not. Perhaps conservatives would find its use acceptable as simply another instrument for the police to employ in the search for law breakers. Given the rhetoric with which they defend the use of torture, I’d be interested in hearing the answer to that question.

Let’s assume, however, that they do view its use as reserved for special circumstances. Doesn’t that imply in and of itself a moral condemnation of the practice, albeit a lesser condemnation than one would hear from liberals? If we both agree it’s far from ideal, can we set aside the rhetoric that its use is perfectly acceptable? Perhaps even admit that the use of torture is something you (as a conservative) have struggled with? And if that’s the case, doesn’t it behoove all of us to seek more acceptable tools with which to obtain the information we all agree we need? Couldn’t our time be spent trying to find those alternatives and not warring over the use of morally problematic techniques?

All that said, I do want to make one additional point. It is becoming vogue amongst some circles, particularly those Mr. Thiessen runs in, to claim that the use of torture is religiously permitted. Mr. Thiessen claims it is even required under Catholic teachings. I won’t claim to speak for all people of faith, but I’ve received a fairly good education in Catholic teachings. Mr. Thiessen’s position is repulsive. More distinguished liturgical scholars than I have eviscerated his arguments. To all those citizens claiming that this country retains the special favor of God, that it is a Christian nation, or that Providence guides us – a defense of the use of torture and our country’s use of it should make you spend some time in thoughtful prayer. As Brit Hume says, Christianity has a great deal to say about forgiveness and redemption. Mr. Hume has a history of getting a great deal wrong. Let’s hope for all of our sakes he isn’t wrong about that.

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Gallup poll

Ezra Klein and David Brooks have both written articles recently attempting to discuss why the public’s trust in government leaders has started jumping all over the place.

David Brooks suggests it is due to a flawed meritocratic system which defines talent too narrowly, relies too heavily on short time horizons, and fails to promote solidarity among those in the “leadership class.” I think Brooks has too much time on his hands to wonder about this. Although given the nonsense of what he just said, perhaps he needs even more time.

Klein agrees Brooks is off the mark (but says it more politely than I did), and argues the primary reason is that the political machines have spent huge sums of money attacking institutions those machines disfavor. He also notes the media now spends a large amount of time attacking the government, and vice-versa.

I think Klein is close, but I also think he is missing a significant factor- the rise of the internet.

Look at the chart above. It is striking that public confidence in all three branches of government was fairly static (other than a drop in confidence in the executive corresponding to the Watergate turmoil) until around 1996- about the time the internet began to explode. From 1995-1998, the number of internet users grew at about 100% per year from 16 million users in 1995 to 147 million by the end of 1998.

Why would the internet have such an impact on public confidence in government institutions? Because for the first time, Americans were given a pulpit and a free publishing mechanism to disseminate their thoughts. They didn’t need to pen a letter to the editor anymore (and hope the letter would pass the editor’s muster and actually get printed) to tell a large group of people how they felt. They simply needed to push “send.” The advent of email and bulk mailing lists, along with the ability to forward any email communication with almost no effort at all turned every single person with internet access into a self-publisher. Blogs took it one step further. Rather than just sending out messages that others could control (by editing further, deleting immediately, or otherwise), the blog gave individuals the ability to own their own piece of cyberspace real estate. People didn’t need someone’s help to forward an email to get mass distribution. They could simply post their thoughts on an internet page accessible (and searchable) anywhere in the world. We were all given a Gutenberg press in our living room.

The internet’s searchable feature was critical. AOL, and later Yahoo, Google and others, became the Yellow Pages of the digital world. People who felt confused about a certain topic could search for an “answer” on that topic and would invariably find the musings of someone invested enough in that topic to memorialize their thoughts on a web page. That “invested” blogger would often be angry about the topic. Anger is, after all, a highly motivating factor. Conversely, they might find someone favorably passionate about a topic. Instead of reading newspapers which, for better or worse, tended to have some articles expressing a positive view on a topic next to articles expressing a negative view on the topic, the internet surfer could quickly connect with and read about individuals whose views would mirror or reinforce his own. Of course, with no editorial review, much of the content published to the internet wasn’t true, even if sounding plausible. The net effect: a higher polarization of the electorate and jumpy public opinion on government (and other) institutions.

Klein’s point that the media attacks on the government, and government attacks on the media, have contributed to the messy movement in public confidence of government institutions is valid, but even here Klein omits a glaring fact. Not only did the internet boom in 1996, it also was the year both MSNBC and Fox News were born. Prior to 1996, CNN had a virtual cable news monopoly. Thereafter, the three cable news giants each competed for their discrete consumer base. Consumers were given yet another opportunity to reinforce their political and cultural views by seeking out information sources that most closely aligned with their preferences. Those news networks over time realized that “commentators” drew much higher ratings than “journalists,” and their lineups adjusted accordingly such that neither Fox nor MSNBC have any true journalists left in their primetime slots. Instead, they have individuals who keep viewers interested (and often angry) by attacking not just their competitors, but the interests of their competitors’ target consumers. Often that means attacking a political party, or a president, or an institution.

Simply put, technology has in many respects outpaced democratic institutions. Those institutions are adjusting. Obama kept his Blackberry. The Obama White House web page went live literally the second Obama was sworn in. The Press Secretary now has a Twitter account, as do most members of Congress. Many government leaders compile Youtube videos or have Facebook accounts.

While government institutions are trying to keep pace, things aren’t ever going to go back to the way they once were, and that isn’t necessarily a bad thing. In many ways, the electorate has more opportunities to be connected to their representatives now than ever before and to see how their representatives are helping (or failing) them. This opportunity does come with significant challenges. The internet and the “news” media Prism are operating as a Great Political Prism, only this prism doesn’t take in light and disperse it into colors of the rainbow. Instead, it takes in internet and media consumers and sorts them into ideologies and polarized opinions.

We all need to take care not to tread exclusively in our ideological prism path. My sense is that many of us suffer from artificial highs in optimism and lows in pessimism when we click on only those links that fit our ideologies. Venture out. Fight the prism that is often the internet and news media. The further down the prism path any of us go before we decide to read (and hear) what the other side is saying, the further apart we will feel from the other side when (if ever) we finally make that leap- and the more alienated we will feel from our government institutions.

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It started as a spark.  A few Democratic Senators circulated a letter calling for passage of a public option through the reconciliation process.  Soon after, a few more Senators signed the letter.  And a few more after that.  Soon, the letter had the signatures of 24 Senators, including 6 Senate committee chairmen and such notables as John Kerry, Pat Leahy, and Chuck Schumer.  The spark was threatening to turn into a wildfire.

Senate Majority Leader Reid then punted to the White House, saying (as if he has no control over the process whatsoever) that “if a decision is made to use reconciliation to advance health care,” he would work to get the votes necessary to pass it.

The White House punted right back, claiming that whether the Senate pushes for a public option via reconciliation is “up to those who manage the amendments, and to Leader Reid.”

The only Democrat so far to claim the Senate doesn’t have the votes to pass a public option is Senator Rockefeller, ironically one of the public option’s chief proponents.

So why is it, with 24 Senators expressing support for the public option (they only need 50 to pass it via reconciliation), neither the White House, Harry Reid, nor Senator Rockefeller are willing to push for the public option? Timing. Continue Reading…

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Let’s Not Get Ahead of Ourselves

Amongst the Reasonable Right™ there has been some pushback on the condemnation of Mr. Sorba’s presentation at CPAC. For background, Mr. Sorba is a virulent defender of opposite sex marriage and seems to believe that homosexuality is an acquired trait, if one were to read his The Born Gay Hoax (I wouldn’t recommend it). Mr. Sorba was invited to give a talk at the annual Conservative Woodstock defending his beliefs. During his speech, the crowd started booing and the moderator had to remind the crowd that they respected “freedom of opinion.” A number of bloggers saw this as further evidence of the homophobia and ridiculousness of what passes for conservatism today. Mr. Sorba didn’t exactly help his case when, after being confronted by Someone Claiming To Be Gay (couldn’t actually BE homosexual, according to Mr. Sorba), this inspiring young homophobe decided their differences might best be resolved in a round of fisticuffs.

So in summary – Mr. Sorba gives anti-gay speech, receives some booing, threatens dissenter with physical violence. A number of the Reasonable Right™ respond that the real newsworthy event here is the booing.  OK, I’ll play along.  Yes, I’m glad that some participants in CPAC condemned the bigoted views of a troglodyte.  But from the several video shots I saw, it seemed those objecting to Mr. Sorba were a small a dedicated group, perhaps a member of this GOPride organization itself.  The vast majority of the crowd seems content to day dream about the dangers of escalators or their coworkers, or the dangers of Rascals.  I’m fine with being open to inviting a plethora of voices to your little rally, if only so things don’t get stale (I’ll leave it to you, gentle reader, to come up with your best old-person-stale joke).  If nothing else it gives you an opportunity to precede and follow said crazy person with articulate voices speaking in opposition and demonstrating to attendees and the press that while you respect everyone’s right to an opinion, and you are even willing to provide a forum for them to defend their opinion, your organization disagrees with those views.

So again, is it great that a group of young people voiced their objection to Mr. Sorba’s position (not to mention a group of young people was able to stand the old person stench long enough to participate)?  Yes.  You have my admiration and respect.  I’ll even throw a few kudos to the Reasonable Right™ for emphasizing those voices of dissent.  But I’ll reserve most of my congratulations for when those voices manage to convince the rest of the conservative movement (or let’s settle for a majority) that gay people don’t have cooties instead of simply waiting for 75% of the conservative coalition to just go away already so that the movement can join the rest of us in the current century.

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